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Saiyan - Cell Saga Powerlevels
Topic Started: Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM (958 Views)
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Saiyan Saga

Vs Raditz
Goku(weights): 334
Goku(no weight): 416
Kamehameha: 924
Piccolo(weighted): 325
Piccolo(no weight): 408
Makankosappo 1st: 1330
Makankosappo 2nd: 1440
Gohan(calm): 1
Gohan(angry): 710
Gohan(rage burst): 1307
Raditz: 1200
Raditz Full Power: 1300

Vs Nappa
Saibamen: 1200
Yamcha: 1475
Krillin: 1500
Tien: 1600
Tien One Arm: 1000
(kikoho): 2500
Chiaotzu: 950
Self Destruct: 2400
Gohan: 1000
(angry): 2300
Masenko: 2800
Piccolo(suppressed): 1650
Piccolo(FP): 2200
Nappa(initial): 4000
Nappa(FP): 7500
Goku: 8050

Vs Vegeta
Vegeta: 18 000
Galick Gun: 24 000
Vegeta (Post Moon Ball): 12 000
Oozaru: 120 000
Vegeta(Weakened): 3000 and declining
Goku(suppressed): 5000
Goku(FP): 8050
Kaioken: 16 100
Kaioken x3: 24 150
Kaioken x4: 32 200
Spirit Bomb: 200 000
Weak Spirit Bomb: 10 000
Goku(very weak): 35
Gohan: 1200
Oozaru: 12 000

Namek

Vs Cui
Vegeta: 24 000
Cui: 18 000

Vs Dodoria
Vegeta: 24 000
Dodoria: 20 000

Vs Zarbon (1st)
Vegeta: 24 000
Zarbon: 21 500
Transformed: 28 400

Vs Zarbon (2nd)
Vegeta: 29 000
Zarbon: 23 000
Transformed: 27 000

Vs Ginyu Force
Gohan(post Guru): 15 000 and rising
Krillin(post Guru): 13 000 and rising
Guldo: 10 000
Recoome: 40 000
Jeice: 42 000
Burter: 42 000
Goku( vs Jeice +Burter): Bursts of 60 000
Freeza(suppressed): 250 000
Nail: 42 000
FP Blast: 60 000

Vs Ginyu
Goku(FP): 90 000
Kaioken: 180 000
Ginyu(suppressed): 75 000
Ginyu(FP): 120 000
In Goku: 23 000
Used to Body: 35 000
Gohan: 40 000
Krillin: 35 000
Vegeta: 250 000
Jeice: 42 000

Vs 1st Freeza
Freeza(FP): 530 000
Vegeta: 500 000
Gohan: 250 000
Krillin: 200 000

Vs 2nd Freeza
Freeza(Initial): 1 060 000
First Power Up: 1 300 000
Second Power Up: 1 600 000
Vegeta: 530 000
Piccolo(weights): 1 100 000
Piccolo(no weights): 1 650 000
Gohan: 275 000
Enraged: 1 000 000
Krillin: 210 000

Vs 3rd Freeza
Freeza: 2 500 000
Piccolo: 1 650 000
Gohan: 900 000
Enraged Masenko: 2 200 000

Vs 4th Freeza
Freeza(initial): 5 000 000
Freeza(25 %): 70 000 000
Freeza(50 %): 140 000 000
Frieza (FP): 280 000 000
Vegeta: 2 750 000
Goku: 6 000 000
Kaioken x10: 60 000 000
Kaioken x20: 120 000 000
Super Saiyan(initial): 260 000 000
Super Saiyan: 300 000 000

Android Saga

Vs Mecha Freeza
Freeza(suppressed): 100 000 000
Freeza(Hypothetical FP): 305 000 000
King Cold: 170 000 000
Trunks(suppressed): 5
Trunks: 7 000 000
Super Saiyan: 350 000 000
Vegeta: 3 000 000
Piccolo: 2 000 000
Gohan: 1 500 000
Krillin: 250 000
Yamcha: 260 000
Tien: 300 000
Goku: 8 000 000
Super Saiyan: 400 000 000


Dragon Ball Z Special 3: The History of Trunks

Trunks: 700 000
SSJ: 35 000 000
Gohan: 6 200 000
SSJ: 310 000 000
Android 17: 750 000 000
Android 18: 700 000 000

Post 3 Years Training

Vs 19 + 20
Goku: 70 000 000
Super Saiyan: 700 000 000
Sick(initial): 600 000 000
Sick(drained energy): 300 000 000
Android 19(Pre Absorptions): 300 000 000
Android 19: Post Absorptions: 375 000 000
Vegeta: 75 000 000
Super Saiyan: 750 000 000
Android 20: 320 000 000
Android 20(Post Vegeta Blast): 390 000 000
Android 20(Post Piccolo): 420 000 000
Piccolo(weights): 300 000 000
Piccolo(no weights): 450 000 000
Gohan: 55 000 000
Krillin: 20 000 000
Tien: 30 000 000
Yamcha: 10 000 000

Vs Android 18
Vegeta: 75 000 000
Super Saiyan: 750 000 000
Trunks: 61 500 000
Super Saiyan: 615 000 000
Piccolo: 400 000 000
Tien: 30 000 000
Krillin: 20 000 000
Android 18: 950 000 000

Vs Imperfect Cell
Kamiccolo: 800 000 000
Imperfect Cell: 800 000 000

Vs 17
Piccolo: 1 000 000 000
Light Grenade: 2 500 000 000
Android 17: 1 000 000 000
Imperfect Cell(Humans Absorbed): 3 000 000 000
Android 16: 2 900 000 000

Vs Semi Perfect Cell
Android 16: 2 900 000 000
Android 18: 950 000 000
Tien: 30 000 000
Tri Beam: 6 000 000 000
Semi Cell: 7 000 000 000
Semi Cell (FP): 11 500 000 000
Vegeta: 1 100 000 000
Super Saiyan: 11 000 000 000
Gr 2: 15 500 000 000
Trunks: 1 000 000 000
Super Saiyan: 10 000 000 000
Gr 2: 15 000 000 000

Vs Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell(heavily suppressed): 14 000 000 000
More Serious: 35 000 000 000
Vegeta: 1 100 000 000
Super Saiyan: 11 000 000 000
Gr 2: 15 500 000 000
Final Flash: 60 000 000 000
Trunks: 1 000 000 000
Super Saiyan: 10 000 000 000
Gr 2: 15 000 000 000
Gr 3: 30 000 000 000

Cell Games

Vs Cell
Goku: 9 000 000 000
Super Saiyan: 90 000 000 000
Instant Kamehameha: 250 000 000 000
Drained: 50 000 000 000
Perfect Cell(suppressed): 100 000 000 000
Damaged from KHH: 80 000 000 000
Cell Junior: 75 000 000 000
Vegeta: 7 000 000 000
Super Saiyan: 70 000 000 000
Final Flash: 150 000 000 000
Trunks: 6 500 000 000
Super Saiyan: 65 000 000 000
Piccolo: 45 000 000 000
Goku(Drained): 40 000 000 000
Gohan: 15 000 000 000
Super Saiyan: 150 000 000 000
Super Saiyan 2: 600 000 000 000
One Arm: 240 000 000 000
Kamehameha: 1 000 000 000 000
Rage Addition: 1 500 000 000 000
Perfect Cell(less suppressed): 160 000 000 000
Perfect Cell(FP): 250 000 000 000
Super Perfect Cell: 550 000 000 000
Kamehameha: 1 100 000 000 000
Edited by SSJ, Jan 5 2013, 07:49 PM.
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SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Kyouks don't comment :p
wut

SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
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SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Vs Raditz
Goku(weights): 334
Goku(no weight): 416
Kamehameha: 924
Piccolo(weighted): 325
Piccolo(no weight): 408
Makankosappo 1st: 1330
Makankosappo 2nd: 1440
Why would the 2nd be stronger than the 1st?
SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Gohan(calm): 1
Gohan(angry): 710
Gohan(rage burst): 1307
Raditz: 1200
Raditz Full Power: 1300
1300 seems high considering the the Saibamen rival him, and Tien beating the Saibamen as easily as he did was (IIRC) proof of him being higher than Raditz. LOWER.

SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Vs Nappa
Saibamen: 1200
Yamcha: 1475
Yamcha would've insta-pwned if he was this high.
SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Tien One Arm: 1000
(kikoho): 2500
Chiaotzu: 950
Self Destruct: 2400
Gohan: 1000
(angry): 2300
Masenko: 2800
Piccolo(suppressed): 1650
Piccolo(FP): 2200
Nappa(initial): 4000
Nappa(FP): 7500
Goku: 8050
Initial Nappa seems pretty high considering how badly he got burned by Piccolo's blast, which should be under the Masenko.

SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Vs Vegeta
Vegeta: 18 000
Where's Initial Vegeta yo.
SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Galick Gun: 24 000
Vegeta (Post Moon Ball): 12 000
Oozaru: 120 000
Vegeta(Weakened): 3000 and declining
Goku(suppressed): 5000
Goku(FP): 8050
Kaioken: 16 100
Kaioken x3: 24 150
Kaioken x4: 32 200
Take into account that Goku was prolly weakened a bit by the time he fired his KHH.

SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Vs Zarbon (1st)
Vegeta: 24 000
Zarbon: 21 500
Transformed: 28 400
Zarbon shouldn't be any lower than 22,000

SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Vs Zarbon (2nd)
Vegeta: 29 000
Zarbon: 23 000
Transformed: 27 000
Why is normal Zarbon stronger and Monster Zarbon weaker all of a sudden? Wut?

SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Vs Ginyu Force
Gohan(post Guru): 15 000 and rising
Krillin(post Guru): 13 000 and rising
15,000 seems a little high considering that he was only stated to be over 10,000.
SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Guldo: 10 000
Guldo is 10,000, yet he's considered pathetic power-wise by two fighters barely over 10,000 themselves?

SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Vs Ginyu
Goku(FP): 90 000
Kaioken: 180 000
Ginyu(suppressed): 75 000
Ginyu(FP): 120 000
In Goku: 23 000
Used to Body: 35 000
Gohan: 40 000
Krillin: 35 000
Vegeta: 250 000
Jeice: 42 000
I don't recall Ginyu ever getting used to Goku's body. Gohan's way too high, as is Krillin, I think 30,000 or so should cover their advantage.

Why's Vegeta as high as 250,000 already? Makes no sense when considering that when Jeice punched him, he pushed him back and drew blood.

SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Vs 1st Freeza
Freeza(FP): 530 000
Vegeta: 500 000
Gohan: 250 000
Krillin: 200 000
Are 250,000 and 200,000 going to be help against a foe expected to be 600,000+? At least make them 300,000.

SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Vs 2nd Freeza
Freeza(Initial): 1 060 000
First Power Up: 1 300 000
This big of a power up doesn't seem necessary imo.
SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Second Power Up: 1 600 000
Vegeta: 530 000
Piccolo(weights): 1 100 000
Piccolo(no weights): 1 650 000
Why'd Vegeta suddenly get stronger?

Weighted Piccolo > Power up 1 Freeza.
SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Gohan: 275 000
Enraged: 1 000 000
Krillin: 210 000
1,000,000 is way too close to 1,060,000, considering that Freeza was barely damaged by the attack.

SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Vs 3rd Freeza
Freeza: 2 500 000
Piccolo: 1 650 000
Gohan: 900 000
Enraged Masenko: 2 200 000

Vs 4th Freeza
Freeza(initial): 5 000 000
Freeza(25 %): 70 000 000
Freeza(50 %): 140 000 000
Frieza (FP): 280 000 000
Vegeta: 2 750 000
Initial Freeza being 5,000,000 is unnecessary, the power up is likely similar to the 2nd form --> 3rd form power up.

Vegeta weaker than Initial Freeza, barely stronger than 3rd form Freeza, why?

Android Saga

SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Vs Mecha Freeza
Freeza(suppressed): 100 000 000
Freeza(Hypothetical FP): 305 000 000
King Cold: 170 000 000
Trunks(suppressed): 5
Trunks: 7 000 000
Super Saiyan: 350 000 000
Vegeta: 3 000 000
Piccolo: 2 000 000
Gohan: 1 500 000
Krillin: 250 000
Yamcha: 260 000
Tien: 300 000
Goku: 8 000 000
Super Saiyan: 400 000 000
350 over 305 is around 1.14x. Trunks vs FP Freeza is essentially supposed to go down like this-



Tell me, is that possible with such a measly advantage?! SPEAK!

Goku having a similar advantage over Trunks seems very odd too.

SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Dragon Ball Z Special 3: The History of Trunks

Trunks: 700 000
SSJ: 35 000 000
Gohan: 6 200 000
SSJ: 310 000 000
Android 17: 750 000 000
Android 18: 700 000 000
These levels don't seem to correlate with the anime special...why are you even doing the anime special?

SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Post 3 Years Training

Vs 19 + 20
Goku: 70 000 000
Super Saiyan: 700 000 000
Sick(initial): 600 000 000
Sick(drained energy): 300 000 000
Android 19(Pre Absorptions): 300 000 000
Android 19: Post Absorptions: 375 000 000
Vegeta: 75 000 000
Super Saiyan: 750 000 000
Android 20: 320 000 000
Android 20(Post Vegeta Blast): 390 000 000
Android 20(Post Piccolo): 420 000 000
Piccolo(weights): 300 000 000
Piccolo(no weights): 450 000 000
Gohan: 55 000 000
Krillin: 20 000 000
Tien: 30 000 000
Yamcha: 10 000 000
Weighted Piccolo < Base Vegeta. Piccolo's advantage over 20 is puny on here, make it bigger.

SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Vs Android 18
Vegeta: 75 000 000
Super Saiyan: 750 000 000
Trunks: 61 500 000
Super Saiyan: 615 000 000
Piccolo: 400 000 000
Tien: 30 000 000
Krillin: 20 000 000
Android 18: 950 000 000

Vs Imperfect Cell
Kamiccolo: 800 000 000
Imperfect Cell: 800 000 000
Both Piccolo and IPC should blow SSJ Vegeta out of the water.

SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Vs 17
Piccolo: 1 000 000 000
Light Grenade: 2 500 000 000
Android 17: 1 000 000 000
Imperfect Cell(Humans Absorbed): 3 000 000 000
Android 16: 2 900 000 000
Light Grenade barely higher than a 2.22x amplification which Piccolo thinks is pathetic?

Piccolo was roughly even with #17 even at the end of their fight, so make him slightly higher to make up for his lack of infinite stamina.

Light Grenade looks way too close to IPC for that to be a tank.

SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Vs Semi Perfect Cell
Android 16: 2 900 000 000
Android 18: 950 000 000
Tien: 30 000 000
Tri Beam: 6 000 000 000
Semi Cell: 7 000 000 000
Semi Cell (FP): 11 500 000 000
Vegeta: 1 100 000 000
Super Saiyan: 11 000 000 000
Gr 2: 15 500 000 000
Trunks: 1 000 000 000
Super Saiyan: 10 000 000 000
Gr 2: 15 000 000 000
A power up that big for Semi Cell seems unnecessary, and it just leads to needless bloating of numbers, honestly.

SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Vs Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell(heavily suppressed): 14 000 000 000
More Serious: 35 000 000 000
Having him over 2x Vegeta seems unnecessary imo, but not a huge deal I guess. Still, I'd consider lowering it.
SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Vegeta: 1 100 000 000
Super Saiyan: 11 000 000 000
Gr 2: 15 500 000 000
Final Flash: 60 000 000 000
Trunks: 1 000 000 000
Super Saiyan: 10 000 000 000
Gr 2: 15 000 000 000
Gr 3: 30 000 000 000
Umm, Gr3 Trunks is supposed to blow Suppressed PC out of the water.

SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Cell Games

Vs Cell
Goku: 9 000 000 000
Super Saiyan: 90 000 000 000
50% MSSJ Goku > SSJGr3 Trunks, and yet everyone thinks Goku is screwed against Cell? Doesn't make sense.
SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Instant Kamehameha: 250 000 000 000
Doesn't seem much higher than the pathetic 2.22x....
SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Drained: 50 000 000 000
Perfect Cell(suppressed): 100 000 000 000
Damaged from KHH: 80 000 000 000
Cell Junior: 75 000 000 000
Vegeta: 7 000 000 000
Super Saiyan: 70 000 000 000
Final Flash: 150 000 000 000
Trunks: 6 500 000 000
Super Saiyan: 65 000 000 000
Given the fact that both Vegeta and Trunks are hesitant to fight Cell even after the IT KHH, Tired Goku > Vegeta ~> Trunks > Tired Goku (post chi spamming).

Btw, both seem way close to 100% Goku.
SuperSaiyan2
Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Piccolo: 45 000 000 000
Goku(Drained): 40 000 000 000
Gohan: 15 000 000 000
Super Saiyan: 150 000 000 000
Super Saiyan 2: 600 000 000 000
One Arm: 240 000 000 000
Kamehameha: 1 000 000 000 000
Rage Addition: 1 500 000 000 000
Perfect Cell(less suppressed): 160 000 000 000
Perfect Cell(FP): 250 000 000 000
Super Perfect Cell: 550 000 000 000
Kamehameha: 1 100 000 000 000
FP PC is at a disadvantage similar to the ones you gave to the people who had their punches/kicks tanked? SSJ2 Kid Gohan can't tank FP PC's blows, make him higher.

2x amplification is smaller than the amp he was suggested to have while he was Imperfect..
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Hmm pretty good list.

But I think Yamcha shouldn't be stronger than Krillin in android saga?

Imp Cell and 16 should be equal since it was stated.

I think you have Piccolo too low compared to SSJ Trunks in Android saga

And not to mention that Piccolo and 20's gap is pretty small since Piccolo oneshots 20 so easily.
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Krillin > Yamcha is literally shown/stated in the androids arc.

He has that, anyways, but the gaps between the humans seem way too big.
Edited by Kyouks, Jan 5 2013, 08:42 PM.
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Kyouks I said don't comment since its the same on e as shinden lol.

And thanks for the input guys
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Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM
Kyouks don't comment :p

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Saiyan Saga

Vs Raditz
Goku(weights): 334
Goku(no weight): 416
Kamehameha: 924
[bPiccolo(weighted): 325][/b]
Piccolo(no weight): 408
Makankosappo 1st: 1330
Makankosappo 2nd: 1440
Gohan(calm): 1
Gohan(angry): 710
Gohan(rage burst): 1307
Raditz: 1200
Raditz Full Power: 1300

Vs Nappa
Saibamen: 1200
Yamcha: 1475
Krillin: 1500
Tien: 1600
Tien One Arm: 1000
(kikoho): 2500
Chiaotzu: 950
Self Destruct: 2400
Gohan: 1000
(angry): 2300
Masenko: 2800
Piccolo(suppressed): 1650
Piccolo(FP): 2200
Nappa(initial): 4000
Nappa(FP): 7500
Goku: 8050

Vs Vegeta
Vegeta: 18 000
Galick Gun: 24 000
Vegeta (Post Moon Ball): 12 000
Oozaru: 120 000
Vegeta(Weakened): 3000 and declining
Goku(suppressed): 5000
Goku(FP): 8050
Kaioken: 16 100
Kaioken x3: 24 150
Kaioken x4: 32 200
Spirit Bomb: 200 000
Weak Spirit Bomb: 10 000
Goku(very weak): 35
Gohan: 1200
Oozaru: 12 000

Namek

Vs Cui
Vegeta: 24 000
Cui: 18 000

Vs Dodoria
Vegeta: 24 000
Dodoria: 20 000

Vs Zarbon (1st)
Vegeta: 24 000
Zarbon: 21 500
Transformed: 28 400

Vs Zarbon (2nd)
Vegeta: 29 000
Zarbon: 23 000
Transformed: 27 000

Vs Ginyu Force
Gohan(post Guru): 15 000 and rising
Krillin(post Guru): 13 000 and rising
[bGuldo: 10 000][/b]
Recoome: 40 000
Jeice: 42 000
Burter: 42 000
Goku( vs Jeice +Burter): Bursts of 60 000
Freeza(suppressed): 250 000
Nail: 42 000
FP Blast: 60 000

Vs Ginyu
Goku(FP): 90 000
Kaioken: 180 000
Ginyu(suppressed): 75 000
Ginyu(FP): 120 000
In Goku: 23 000
Used to Body: 35 000
Gohan: 40 000
Krillin: 35 000
Vegeta: 250 000
Jeice: 42 000

Vs 1st Freeza
Freeza(FP): 530 000
Vegeta: 500 000
Gohan: 250 000
Krillin: 200 000

Vs 2nd Freeza
Freeza(Initial): 1 060 000
First Power Up: 1 300 000
Second Power Up: 1 600 000
Vegeta: 530 000
Piccolo(weights): 1 100 000
Piccolo(no weights): 1 650 000
Gohan: 275 000
Enraged: 1 000 000
Krillin: 210 000

Vs 3rd Freeza
Freeza: 2 500 000
Piccolo: 1 650 000
Gohan: 900 000
Enraged Masenko: 2 200 000

Vs 4th Freeza
Freeza(initial): 5 000 000
Freeza(25 %): 70 000 000
Freeza(50 %): 140 000 000
Frieza (FP): 280 000 000
Vegeta: 2 750 000
Goku: 6 000 000
Kaioken x10: 60 000 000
Kaioken x20: 120 000 000
Super Saiyan(initial): 260 000 000
Super Saiyan: 300 000 000

Android Saga

Vs Mecha Freeza
Freeza(suppressed): 100 000 000
Freeza(Hypothetical FP): 305 000 000
King Cold: 170 000 000
Trunks(suppressed): 5
Trunks: 7 000 000
Super Saiyan: 350 000 000
Vegeta: 3 000 000
Piccolo: 2 000 000
Gohan: 1 500 000
Krillin: 250 000
Yamcha: 260 000
Tien: 300 000
Goku: 8 000 000
Super Saiyan: 400 000 000


Dragon Ball Z Special 3: The History of Trunks

Trunks: 700 000
SSJ: 35 000 000
Gohan: 6 200 000
SSJ: 310 000 000
Android 17: 750 000 000
Android 18: 700 000 000

Post 3 Years Training

Vs 19 + 20
Goku: 70 000 000
Super Saiyan: 700 000 000
Sick(initial): 600 000 000
Sick(drained energy): 300 000 000
Android 19(Pre Absorptions): 300 000 000
Android 19: Post Absorptions: 375 000 000
Vegeta: 75 000 000
Super Saiyan: 750 000 000
Android 20: 320 000 000
Android 20(Post Vegeta Blast): 390 000 000
Android 20(Post Piccolo): 420 000 000
Piccolo(weights): 300 000 000
Piccolo(no weights): 450 000 000
Gohan: 55 000 000
Krillin: 20 000 000
Tien: 30 000 000
Yamcha: 10 000 000

Vs Android 18
Vegeta: 75 000 000
Super Saiyan: 750 000 000
Trunks: 61 500 000
Super Saiyan: 615 000 000
Piccolo: 400 000 000
Tien: 30 000 000
Krillin: 20 000 000
Android 18: 950 000 000

Vs Imperfect Cell
Kamiccolo: 800 000 000
Imperfect Cell: 800 000 000

Vs 17
Piccolo: 1 000 000 000
Light Grenade: 2 500 000 000
Android 17: 1 000 000 000
Imperfect Cell(Humans Absorbed): 3 000 000 000
Android 16: 2 900 000 000

Vs Semi Perfect Cell
Android 16: 2 900 000 000
Android 18: 950 000 000
Tien: 30 000 000
Tri Beam: 6 000 000 000
Semi Cell: 7 000 000 000
Semi Cell (FP): 11 500 000 000
Vegeta: 1 100 000 000
Super Saiyan: 11 000 000 000
Gr 2: 15 500 000 000
Trunks: 1 000 000 000
Super Saiyan: 10 000 000 000
Gr 2: 15 000 000 000

Vs Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell(heavily suppressed): 14 000 000 000
More Serious: 35 000 000 000
Vegeta: 1 100 000 000
Super Saiyan: 11 000 000 000
Gr 2: 15 500 000 000
Final Flash: 60 000 000 000
Trunks: 1 000 000 000
Super Saiyan: 10 000 000 000
Gr 2: 15 000 000 000
Gr 3: 30 000 000 000

Cell Games

Vs Cell
Goku: 9 000 000 000
Super Saiyan: 90 000 000 000
Instant Kamehameha: 250 000 000 000
Drained: 50 000 000 000
Perfect Cell(suppressed): 100 000 000 000
Damaged from KHH: 80 000 000 000
Cell Junior: 75 000 000 000
Vegeta: 7 000 000 000
Super Saiyan: 70 000 000 000
Final Flash: 150 000 000 000
Trunks: 6 500 000 000
Super Saiyan: 65 000 000 000
Piccolo: 45 000 000 000
Goku(Drained): 40 000 000 000
Gohan: 15 000 000 000
Super Saiyan: 150 000 000 000
Super Saiyan 2: 600 000 000 000
One Arm: 240 000 000 000
Kamehameha: 1 000 000 000 000
Rage Addition: 1 500 000 000 000
Perfect Cell(less suppressed): 160 000 000 000
Perfect Cell(FP): 250 000 000 000
Super Perfect Cell: 550 000 000 000
Kamehameha: 1 100 000 000 000




@bold 1: Weighted Piccolo was confirmed to be at 322.




@bold 2: Piccolo's 2nd Makankosappo wasn't confirmed to be at 1,440 in the manga aand since he already exhausted a lot of ki using one I doubt his 2nd one would be stronger.



@bold 3: Yamcha should be no higher than 1,350 him and that Saibaman were even and it still was able to get up even after a direct hit from the Kamehameha.



@bold 4: I dont get this one at all. Why is Zarbon's base stronger in their 2nd fight and his transformed state is weaker.




@bold 5: Gohan and Krillin were only over 10,000 13k and 15k are too high.



@bold 6: I dont see any reason for Guldo to be that strong.



@bold 7: Used To Body? In the manga Ginyu never learned how to control Goku's body.



@bold 8: Gohan and Krillin should be a little higher than that. I would put Krillin at the very least at 300k since Vegeta was so confident that they could beat a transformed Freeza. And a 2x gap is in tanking range.



@bold 9: Vegeta > Initial Final Form Freeza. Vegeta was 100% confident he could beat Freeza after he transformed.



@bold 10: Yamcha > Krillin? Can you atleast tell me your reasoning for this besides Krillin should be at 600k+ at this point in time.



@bold 11: You only have 1.07x gap between Piccolo and Post Energy 20 that's not enough considering Piccolo stomped him with zero effort.



@bold 12: Humans are too low. For them to be even a little useful they would need to be at 50% Freeza.



@bold 13: Piccolo was stronger than Initial Imperfect Cell that's why he ran away because he didn't have enough power to beat him.



@bold 14: Gap between Piccolo's light grenade and Humans Absorbed Imperfect Cell should be bigger Raditz who was about 1.4x stronger than Goku's Kamehameha struggled to block and was pushed back from it while he tanked it with no damage.



@bold 15: SSJ Grade 3 Trunks > Surpressed Cell is a stated fact.








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Yamcha should never be above Krillin, Nappa and Raditz can't raise or lower their Powerlevel, everything else is good.
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Jan 5 2013, 08:51 PM
Yamcha should never be above Krillin, Nappa and Raditz can't raise or lower their Powerlevel, everything else is good.
They can.

Kyouks don't comment! Get out! :rofl:
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Raditz can't control his power level. He can only make his attacks stronger by using more effort.
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Kamikaze Pyro
Jan 6 2013, 12:59 AM
Raditz can't control his power level. He can only make his attacks stronger by using more effort.
How about Nappa? He surely can.
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No, he can't. He just has a relaxed level and a full power level, he can't consciously suppress or adjust his level or anything like that.
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Kyouka Suigetsu
Jan 6 2013, 02:03 AM
No, he can't. He just has a relaxed level and a full power level, he can't consciously suppress or adjust his level or anything like that.
Oh , Mkay. :okay:
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Actually, he'd have more levels than that. Just can't do the suppressing thing. yeah.
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Kyouka Suigetsu
Jan 6 2013, 02:13 AM
Actually, he'd have more levels than that. Just can't do the suppressing thing. yeah.
You mean he can start as initial , then can go 50% and then 100% full power?
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Man, I don't got the specifics down boi!

He can't consciously suppress down to low levels. Just powers up, relaxes.
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